Wednesday 23 June 2010

Perloff's Re-Po statement

I want to suggest, tenderly and respectfully, an option for how to interpret  Marjorie Perloff's statement regarding the victim and rapist, in such a crime, when she was talking about V. Place's work, Statement of Fact, at the Rethinking Poetics conference held recently at Columbia.

Here we go:

Last semester, the Spring one, Vanessa Place came to SUNY Buffalo, and the seminar I was in with Steve McCaffery. One evening while in town, she gave a reading, and it was out of Statement of Fact. Not only the way she read it, but also the language of it, betrayed no favoring of victim or rapist, no less description of one than the other, and eerily placed them on a level playing field. It was a very disturbing experience to hear it read because, in fact, the victim easily could sound as bad as the rapist. 

I think there was something in the language used in the transcripts, which, combined with my decades long media training (just part of living in Western Culture) created a very slippery yet concise line dividing my judgment. It was next to impossible to listen without forming, even if only for a second, a thought about the victim and/or perpetrator. Add to this an almost invisible yet sharp dividing line between judgments, and one can flip from side to side at staggering rates. Quite an amazing experience, and certainly, as I said, disturbing.

I want to softly suggest that perhaps this is what Marjorie Perloff was referring to.

I realize I could be way way off, and that this could just be a testament to how much I did not want Perloff's comment to mean what it could possibly mean. I'm completely willing to live with that. But I did want to share my experience of hearing some of this piece read, and also suggest that Perloff's comment was very precisely about the work of text, not the act of sexual assault itself.


7 comments:

  1. For the record, I do understand that my suggestion above doesn't remove the fact that no one responded publicly to what she said, even to get clarity on what Perloff was referring to. Nor does it remove the fact that Perloff herself did not make absolute sure everyone there understood what she was referring to.

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  2. I've heard a lot about this second-hand. Find it totally curious, along side "disturbing." If you learn of more people discussing the issue, please post.
    Thanks!

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  3. Cris,
    There were a few comment strings on facebook, from a couple different people's status updates. Barrett Watten quoted what she said at one point. I was there. Most people seem "upset" that no one said anything about it while Perloff was in the room, publicly. One person suggested something quite similar to what I'm saying. What do you want to know? I don't want to post the facebook threads because I don't feel like it's my writing to post. But I can maybe fill you in on some things?

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  4. Thank you, Soma. That says it better than I did in the heat of the moment.
    One further important fact: Vanessa is the court-appointed appeals attorney, which means her clients are the indigent. In the population she is surveying here, rape is only one element in a much larger complex of terrifying everyday life. This is the way it IS, pretty or not. The book makes no claims to be representative in a larger sense. I thought the situation was apparent but obviously it wasn't and that is my fault.

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  5. Marjorie,
    Although I do understand that context is important, even for something like rape, I don't think the context actually lessens the brutality of the crime, nor do I think it at all shifts any of the responsibility for the perpetrator's actions onto the victim. You may not be saying that it does, but what you are saying does seem to come dangerously close to just that.

    I also think it's dangerous to assume that anyone who uses a court-appointed lawyer is indigent. I don't consider myself poor, but I certainly couldn't afford a decent lawyer. But you also may not be saying that. It may be specific to the book, if it only deals with those specific cases.

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  6. Soma, as to indigence, Vanessa told me that her particular clients WERE the indigent.

    As to the question of responsibility: do you believe that the clear-cut distinction you are making is true of every major crime? Murder? Assassination? Fraud? Extortion? Armed robbery? terrorism? And if not--and you seem to think not-- why is rape THE unique crime? This is the painful issue Vanessa raises. In Dante's day, the lowest circle in hell was reserved for evil counselors/betrayers. Next came wrath.
    The "brutality of the crime" may appear different when others involved (not the victim, but others present) are just as brutal. Bystanders, for instance, who shrug their shoulders while watching rape take place. Should they go to jail too? If not, why not?
    I maintain that there are NO easy answers.

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  7. A very complex issue. Blaming the victim is not one wants to do, ever. Are you in any way responsible for the onset or development of your cancer? Can this be investigated with an open mind without prejudice? Perhaps the cancer is 80% psychosomatic, perhaps 50%, perhaps 0%.
    I often thought that as a working hypothesis, assume that for whatever happens, ALL involved and present are responsible. To what degree?
    I have worked with women who have been raped 10 times. Ethically, the rapist is 100 % to blame. But there are many other ways to think about this...

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